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I hope this post does not get deleted, because my posts were getting deleted.

I am making this post on my behalf, has nothing to do with NiceHash and NiceHash is not aware of it. This is my personal view and NOT a statement from NiceHash.

Let's start with timeline several months ago, before the big BTC hype, when BTC was still just around 10k. Who was mining back then? Old school miners. People that know how to mine, people that use dedicated rigs, are well aware NOT to store any personal data on these PCs. Keep private keys away. Minerstat for example, is actually well aware of this, and they made a suggestion
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Don't mine on personal computer. We do know what minerstat application includes, but we can never know what is in the mining clients as they are closed source.
source: https://minerstat.com/help/how-to-secure-your-mining-environment

So, generally, it is well known that it is simply too risky to just mine on your own PC. You need to have a dedicated rig for that, if you wish to mine.

What happened then? BTC started rising and with it all other altcoins and ethereum. NiceHash made some campaigns and there will be more - to get general population (especially gamers into mining). Let's put out this fact: these people DO NOT have dedicated rigs for mining, they DO MINE on their personal computers. The thing that everyone here knows is very risky to do.

But everything is fine, when each person decides for himself. If you are prepared to take the risks and you do install close source miners from anonymous developers, that is on you and nobody else. Nobody can be blamed for your choice, right?

Now, this things becomes way more complicated, if there is someone else who installs this on your PC - like NiceHash. And if you didn't notice the total ignorance by the majority of people towards this problem, to the point of even making jokes of "stealing my porn collection". These things are not something you make fun of. These things can destroy a company and put people behind bars. Yes, NiceHash is aware of this problem, was aware of this BEFORE phoenix saga happened, that is why there were certain threads opened and posts made. There were plans to inform public better about this issue. NiceHash started solving this issue from two perspectives: first was to inform the public and second was to create alternative that would at least come close to the closed source solutions made by anonymous developers.

Until last weekend, everything was calm. Then NiceHash started getting reports about PhoenixMiner Mega.nz download issue. Okay, it can happen, developer would surely fix the issue and upload new bins, inform us about new link. But nothing. We decided to write to developer - no response. After no response, we started getting worried. Is that an exit scam? Did we just distribute malicious software from anonymous developer and will be held responsible for installing malware on 300k computers worldwide? This was the main question in the company. How would ANY reasonable person react to this speculation? Keep it quiet and hope that this is not true? Well... hope is not enough, hope doesn't absolve you from responsibility. Yes, NiceHash do have 3rd party EULA that every user has to confirm, but like I mentioned before, nobody was reading that. People gave jack shit about it and really didn't care. They were under complete illusion that "NiceHash is a big company, they surely must have taken care of what I am installing, no?". Perhaps if this happened and there was a court case, NiceHash could win, but that doesn't mean NiceHash would survive.

And when we took a deeper look - developer gone for 1.5 months, constant attempts to push 5.5d bins, someone was doing hash checks and said these don't match (not sure why that was but as later found out - probably because of different zip files), it was just a big panic and a race with a time - if there is a malicious attempt, we need to inform users ASAP and reduce possible damage. Considering how long developer did not react (it must have been like 3 days), we were sure he/she/they are not coming back and the only question remaining was: is there an exit scam or not? Why did we think so? The reasons cannot be simply explained with one sentence, but I have made explanation available here: https://www.reddit.com/r/NiceHash/comments/lzsheq/phoenixminer_howwhywha...

But on Monday morning, look, developer is back! I was sure, we need to make an apology now. Even though, we never said that there is malware, we only warned users there COULD be, people panicked and simply overlooked our "COULD" word. So, my belief was to make a sorry statement at least for this indirect damage. And if you ask me, I am still sorry for this. I know what it means, if developer intentions are not harmful, and until there is name to be kept, I am sure, intentions are not harmful. I know how much damage from reduced income this must have caused. But I cannot decide for the company what statements to give out. This is not in my power and voting was against doing this. If it helps you PhoenixMiner, personally, I am sorry for this, truly I am.

Now, let's also debate the other very suspicious events that were going on before developer reappeared and which do not make much sense and were completely unnecessary and must have been related to something else, which made the whole disappearance even more suspicious. I believe, if there were none of these activities, things would probably go into different direction, perhaps even towards official sorry statement.

So, after the announcement was made, there was immediate FUD by Josip Juhas, that NiceHash has pushed malicious 5.5d binaries to all NiceHash users and that this is just a campaign to fix own mistake. I have asked Josip to take this statement down, because it was not true. It was not true according to the source code, which is publicly available and everyone can analyze and confirm that this could not have happened unless the real developer pushed these bins on Mega.nz. Also, not a single user reported getting 5.5d bins and nobody reported anything about being infected. But Josip Juhas continued pushing this FUD to the point so others have copied his statement, including Alchemy from RedPandaMining and this statement was then spread by RedPandaMining all around the community through his YouTube channel. Besides that, someone (definitely not developer) also started massive shill campaign on all social media posting either this exact same FUD about 5.5d binaries being pushed or diversion - some events from NiceHash's history to discredit NiceHash warning as false and as something you really don't have to worry about. I cannot prove who was behind this campaign, but if developer wasn't available, then I would guess it was definitely NOT the developer. And the developer would be the only one having interest doing that. So who else would be doing that? I still don't know, but if I'd have to point my finger I'd say Josip Juhas. It fits his profile. Why?

Let me tell you something about Josip Juhas, aka minerstat owner. Josip Juhas was convicted two times in Slovenia and spend some time in prison. First time, he was convicted for planned murder. With some other people, they had a plan to hire a young woman, insure her for large sum of money (2.5mil EUR) and then murder her to get this money. So, basically, to make insurance fraud. He got 1 year of prison for this (because it was never executed and was only planned). Second time, he was convicted for extorting women. There were 3 guys, one had sex with women and they taped acts. After the act, there was extortion for money so they would keep quiet and not tell their husbands. At least 3 women were the victims. Not much was revealed publicly, because identity of victims was hidden. He got around 3 years of prison for this crime. Sources (unfortunately in Slovenian, but you can use google translate):
https://www.vecer.com/kronika/do-grla-vpleten-v-dogovor-o-umoru-bo-terja...
https://old.slovenskenovice.si/crni-scenarij/doma/za-nacrtovani-umor-sta...
https://old.delo.si/novice/kronika/kljucno-prico-cakajo-na-sodiscu-in-v-...
There are a lot more sources available, I just listed few. How do I know this? Josip Juhas once worked for NiceHash. He resigned somewhere in the middle of 2017. He wasn't fired, he resigned, let me make this very clear. Also, he is well aware of dangers of mining on personal computer - he has this text I quoted before on minerstat webpage. So, why would he do what he did then you may ask yourself? Deep inside, he must know the dangers, deep inside he knew that NiceHash distributed PhoenixMiner on many PCs around and deep inside he knew that this could be the end of NiceHash if it turns out to be true - that there is an exit scam. But if NiceHash makes a big warning, and it turns out to be true, then NiceHash would survive, because people were warned and they could have reacted fast enough to prevent damage. Do you see reasoning now? Josip Juhas wish that NiceHash would die since 2017 when he resigned. He created kinda competitive service - minerstat, so of course, he wants NiceHash gone, obliterated. And by spreading malware, that would be the perfect way. So, making any warnings, that is actually bad - he doesn't want NiceHash to make warnings, he wants NiceHash to make mistakes, so he could take over with minerstat. You can go search his history of comments here and you will notice that he was constantly bad mouthing NiceHash for no apparent reason. I have contacted Josip Juhas at the end of 2020, was expecting to get bad mouthed but was surprised that he was being very polite. Now I see, it was all only the act. His plan was to sell minerstat to NiceHash for 5 million EUR. Of course NiceHash turned that down. There was no reason for him to talk to NiceHash anymore after that. He was so convinced that he was building "something" for NiceHash for the past 3 years, but when we told him that we don't need his service, he was very disappointed. And this is what you get if you don't pay... Basically, if he had a sex tape, it wouldn't be a question "can you please buy this for 5mil?" but rather statement "give me 5mil or I release this sex tape to the public!".

So, be very careful when you deal with him. Never make any business with him. Better not even talk to him. And I am sure he will come up with some bullshit about me being the owner and that nobody likes me and that I am alone and that people are leaving NiceHash. NiceHash has about 50 people and is growing, getting more people every month. What he talks "supposedly about me" is actually his own personality. Josip Juhas has only his girlfriend and one guy from 2017. That is whole minerstat. Only brainwashed people can work with/for him. Sooner or later, anyone realizes that it is impossible to do business with him or impossible to work with/for him.

So, what will happen now in the future? NiceHash Miner will introduce some way of putting PhoenixMiner back in, it just isn't going to be automatic download by NiceHash. That is just way too risky. When people manually insert miners in, then NiceHash cannot be responsible for anything malicious if it ever happened. Similar destiny awaits all other anonymous miners. We don't hate PhoenixMiner and we did not want to destroy PhoenixMiner. This is just malicious talk. There was a risky situation and we had to take extraordinary action to protect NiceHash.

And regarding Josip Juhas. Well, we can just hope that he doesn't murder us all... because after all... he could be capable doing that. I know he will be fighting hard and try to delete this post I made. He was able to reach with mods somehow to delete my other posts. Let's see if he get's so lucky this time too. If he does, then mod, whoever is deleting this post, perhaps you should think twice - isn't this bitcointalk, a forum where free speech is guaranteed?

Phoenix válasz

Továbbra is PM-mel fogok banyaszni a nicehash poolból, de nem a nicehash klienssel. Mondtam, hogy az egész csak vihar a biliben. A kedvencem amikor az NH dev(?) felhozza ezt a Josipet... Plusz emberre próbálja rakenni a felelősséget :D
Amugy vicces látni a különböző nezopontokat, és látni, hogy senki sem teljesen tiszta az ügyben. Ha közmédiában menne, mar az egyik fél rég maga lenne a sátán, a másik meg a szerencsétlen, meghurcolt angyalka :D

A BTC árfolyamra meg:
Szerintem stimmel, hogy lesz ez 200.000USD is év végére. Jó gyűjtögetést addig is, és részemről hold lesz, kivarok :)

NiceHash BTC-Ben fizet ki, mivel hashpower-t ad kölcsön ezért valószínű az aktuálisan általad bányászott altcoin/BTC-rate en tejjel. NiceHash pool-hoz az ottani workeredet kell megadjad ami BTC-s wallet lesz.

https://support.awesomeminer.com/support/solutions/articles/35000086010-...

rwurl=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swOj0wvuCO8

2minersről megvolt az első kifizetesem. Teljesen flottul ment coinbase-re megérkezett hajnalban. PayPal re kiutalására 76,66€-nàl 0,77€-volt 0.05034988 ETH-nal. Most ethermine-t próbálom ki hó végéig. Mindenképp jobb a della NiceHashnél.

en sem ertem, nekem rosszabbnak tunik, vissza is mentem nh-ra

haver par honapja attolta shitcoinba a korabbi laz alatt banyaszott btc-t (eddig holdoltak), most veri a fejet a falba. en csak btc-ben tartnek hosszabb tavon penzt...

ETH 2.0 amire számítani kell és igen, nem lehet majd bányászni többé. Akkor ha megszűnik, kb. le lehet húzni a GPU bányászatot a budin, mert egyszerre több millió arcz szeretne majd RVN vagy valami mást tolni. Nehéz ügy lesz az tuti. egyelőre az EIP 1559-re kell koncentrálni, amit júniusban szeretnének behozni, mellyel csökkenhet a kifizetés akár 40%-al is. Cserébe meg mehet tőle az árfolyam ugyanennyit (Mert 1 ETH-hez, 2 ETH fog kelleni), így lehet semmilyen negatív hatása nem lesz. Egyelőre meg akarják torpedózni a bevezetését és Ápr 1-re egy hirdettek egy fogjunk össze az EIP 1559 ellen-t. Ami ha 40%-ot eléri támogatottságban, akkor megfontolják a DEV-ek a bevezetését. Ha rosszul sül el és 51% fölé megy, akkor meg reszelnek az Ethernek. Szóval izgi dolgok jönnek, az biztos.
Ezt találtam hirtelen, ami egész jól írja le a dolgokat.

Nem tom hova, talán ide:
Kész a RIG. :)
Egy kis szösszenetet itt hagyok.
-EVGA FTW3 ultra megőrülsz akkora kiráy 3090 a legkisebb és legrandább kártya, cserébe olyan hideg, hogy +1200-on a RAM csak 88 fokos, pedig laknak mellette ketten is. Ajiba talán egy matrica járt.
-ASUS ROG Strix OCé besírsz 3090. Van belőle 3db, 2 white, 1 "normál" . 2 White a RIG-ben, Ramok agyon fúvatva, 100%-os ventik mellett 100-102 fokosak. (Holnapra megjönnek a rendelt heatrsinkek, és orvosoljuk a problémát, mert baj lesz)
A gépemben lévő "normál" fekete OC 75%-os ventikkel 96-98 fok, a mesh-es Phanteks házban, ahol elöl 3 12-es venti 75%-ol megy, hátul 1db kifelé szív, szintén 75%. Szóval vagy jobb, vagy a jobb légáramlás miatt, de hidegebb. Ajándék képpen a White edition-höz kaptunk egy baszott nagy ormótlan fos pecsétgyűrűt, amit orkoknak méreteztek, mert akkora ujjra jó kb. Valamint kaptunk valami PCB-ből készült vonalzó szerűséget, mely valószínűleg az E-penis növekedést hivatott megmérni.
-ASUS TUF Gaming. Nát bed, nát terriböl. Melegszik rohadtul. Cserébe hátulról fújva maxon egy 12-es venyával ez lehül 94-96 fokra, nem úgy, mint a fent említett ROG, a mi erre szarik és melegszik, mint a barom. Ajándékban nem is tudom mit adtak, talán valami matricát?
-MSI SUPRIM X 3090 Annak ellenére, hogy hátul a végén nem nyitott a kártya, mint kb az összes, egész jól viselkedik, 96 fok +1200-as ramokkal, igaz a venti 90%-on megy. Cserébe gyárilag nincs rajta fólia sehol, csak a ventik tetején a sárkányokon, az is olyan, mintha leszedték volna és vissza. Miután ma megjött a második, tuti nem kibontott kártya volt, mert elsőre azt hittük, de ez is ugyanúgy nem volt sehol neylon, csak a ventiken. Ajándékban ehhez adták a legtutibb dolgot, egy fajin MSI-s egérpadot, valamint egy kártya tartót(Mármint a videókártya supportot), ami elég szépen van kidolgozva és hasznos lehet, mivel megmérve 1995g volt a kártya. Ez a leghosszabb, legnagyobb baromállat kártya az összes közül.
-Gigabyte 3090 AORUS Extreme felszopó, megvakulsz, ha ránézel edition. Na ez egy igazi ostobaság, úgy ahogy van. Nem tudom mi volt a koncepció, de ennek nincs kivágva a hátuljánál a GPU mögött a lemez. Úgy melegszik, mint az állat, mit melegszik, forr! 104-106 fok, fújatva. Anélkül 110 és "tilt".Cserébe elöl ezen van a legnagyobb borda, meg egymásba forduló venyák, amik valahogy túl kicsik és ezért szar a légszállításuk. Viszont van rajta egy fullos kis kijelző, amin egy szőrmadár tojás először kikel, majd Hello-hello-zva köszön és röpköd ide-oda. Annyira fjúcsör, hogy bőgsz! Mászt hev. Nem, nem az. Nem vagyok vele elégedett egy kicsit sem. Persze, ha a show off a cél, a Gigabyte a csúcson van, borzalmas nagy, világít elöl-hátul (Igaz az MSI is), meg persze a madaras kijelző mindent visz! A doboza is a legkirályabb, mágnesesen csukódik, meg akkora, mint 2 alaplapi doboz, sőt, cserébe van kis füle, ha átviszed a spanodhoz ráverni, akkor nagyon handy.Ajándékba egy annyira kínai AORUS madarat adtak hozzá, hogy én szégyellem magam miatta. Ha kézzel festett, akkor valszeg valami parkinsonos festette, ez esetben azonban jól sikerült.
Szerintünk a legkirályabb az FTW3, igaz nem mutat olyan jól, mint a többi, cserébe hidegen jár csendes(ebb) és kisebb is. Leginkább rövidebb. Olyat vegyetek, ha tudtok. MSI szintén fasza. ROG-ok elvileg gémer szempontból a legjobbak. Jól néznek ki, az tény. Aztán a TUF, majd végül a Gigabyte.
Uff.

RE@L írta: Mi lesz ha jön a jobb idő?

Klíma, de amúgy meg majd egy saját helységbe. Itthon klíma.

RE@L írta: Amúgy kivitelezést illetően mekkora?

70cm x 50 cm, asszem. 70széles, az tuti. Legyártottuk Bosch profilból, meg OBI-s 20x20-as alu profilból, meg némi festett fa,amin a kártyák ülnek. asszem 40cm magas.

RE@L írta: Milyen riserrel és mekkora közökkel raktatok ki őket?

Gembird, valami 3500 Ft-os riser, semmi xtra. Deskán be kell kapcsolni a 4G encodingot!!!
kb 5-6 cm van a kártyák közt. Elöl egyelőre 5 db 12-es venya, amit cserélünk holnap 3db 20-asra.

RE@L írta: Hány gépről megy hogy legyen elég PCI-E Lane? És milyen mobo+proci?

1 gép bőven tudja. MSI 390 PRO+i3-8100+16 Gb ram, meg egy kingston 240-es SSD. Egyelőre win 10, nicehash, mert az kell és kész, nem magyarázom sry. később lehet hiveOS.
1 db 1300-as Seasonic visz 4 kártyát, 1db FSP 500 Hyper (mer az volt kéznél) visz 4 riser PCI-t, mobo+proci+sallang + 850 EVGA a maradék 2db kártyát riserrel együtt. am. riseren 22 és 62W közt vesznek ki a kártyát, gyártótól függően. Átlagban 310W/kártya 120-121MH/s.
A RIG-ben: 1 EVGA, 2 ROG, 1 TUF, 1 MSI és 1 Gigabyte van. ergo 6 kártya.

te jo eg
mennyi lett a vege, es mennyi a hashrate/fogyasztas? (kozben latom, ezeket irtad)

ehhez kepest az elozo laz idejen a ket rig/10 kartya (1060/570-ek) ~ 180MH/s banyam kispalyas vo't :)

-Gigabyte 3090 AORUS Extreme felszopó, megvakulsz, ha ránézel edition. Na ez egy igazi ostobaság, úgy ahogy van. Nem tudom mi volt a koncepció, de ennek nincs kivágva a hátuljánál a GPU mögött a lemez. Úgy melegszik, mint az állat, mit melegszik, forr! 104-106 fok, fújatva. Anélkül 110 és "tilt".Cserébe elöl ezen van a legnagyobb borda, meg egymásba forduló venyák, amik valahogy túl kicsik és ezért szar a légszállításuk.

Jé, miért nem lepődök meg, hogy pont a gigán szarfos a hűtő....

De igen. Így viszont tuti fasza és később, ha beborul az egész, legalább lesz egy rendes deszka, meg proci meg RAM. Amúgy 21%-on megy az i3 most.

@REAL
Mobil klíma? (Itthon használtan kapsz 20.000-ért...)
Német webshopokban 2 naponta van kártya!! (GPU Tracker)

Akkor ablak klíma, ha más nincs. Van egy 20 éves LG a cégnél, a 40m2-es irodát simán behűti...vagy ugye: Nem üzemeltetsz RIG-et :P