Star Wars

A Wikipedia definíciója szerint az alaptémája miatt nem scifi, mert nem egy kvázi lehetséges jövőbeni tudomány lehetséges hatását mutatja egy egyénre, vagy a társadalmomra. A SW-nál inkább a kalandon van a hangsúly, mint mondjuk a LOTR-nál, a futurisztikus űrhajós környezet csak setting. De mondjuk a scifi filmekre hozza a google még az Avengerst is, úgyhogy írok nekik egy emailt, hogy téves a kereső.

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Minden idők legjobb scifi filmjei:
#1 Az eredet - ez lehet scifi a klasszikus definíció szherint
#2 A birodalom visszavág. (besorolása: Akció | Fantasy | Kaland | Sci-Fi) kétlem, hogy scifi lenne, hiszen nem egy lehetséges jövőben játszódik, hanem réges régen.

Természetesen az Alien filmek is benne vannak a listában. Az mondjuk már lehet határeset, hiszen tudományosabb, mint mondjuk a SW, de azért fantasztikus is.

Cukik, de picik a cicik. :(((

Igazából tényleg jópofa

Avagy valaki felcserélte az SW filmek címeit, hogy jobban passzoljanak a filmekhez.

Rohadjon el az Enterainment azzal a watermarkkal. Le is kaptam gyorsan. :D

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Jobban várom második évadot, mint bármelyik más esetleg bejelentet Star Wars produktumot

Tehát a Raised by wolves egy gagyi WH klón, a Mandalorian meg a legjobb SW content? :D Esküszöm nem értem, hogy jöhetett ez be bárkinek is a fórumról. Komolyan jobban nem értem, mint a Last Jedit. Az legalább egy teljesen eltérő nézőpontot prezentált, amivel elhiszem, hogy van olyan, aki tud azonosulni, de egy Mandalorian egy ZS kategóriás bohózat. Még csak nem is a Pedro játszotta a karaktert a részek többségében LUL
Dehát Taika Waititi olyan zseniális párbeszéd jelenetet írt a két stormtrooper között... (világ leggázabb SW jelenete Lejla belebegés után)
Komolyan ez valami virtuális valóság lehet, ahol az RW közösség a troll én meg a szenvedő alany.

Moken írta: Komolyan ez valami virtuális valóság lehet, ahol az RW közösség a troll én meg a szenvedő alany.

Made my day... :) Keep up the good work!

Én már akkor is elégedett leszek, ha a 8 darab félórás résznek kb. a fele nem lesz filler...

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Nem mintha védeni akarnám az új trilógiát, mert emberiség elleni bűn, de lássuk be. Egy ilyen shortot, azért könnyebb rendezni, mint egy 2 órás filmet.

Late to the party on this thread, but wanted to chime in. Sorry for the length, didn't have time to make it shorter...

Was building a miniature Razorcrest, and shooting it Mo-Co absolutely necessary? No. Did it help to make the final result better? "Better" is subjective, but I believe in this case, the answer is yes. I've never been in the "practical is always better" camp. I dislike the push to do things practical in cases where it makes no sense, and is just for the PR, or because of nostalgia on the part of the filmmaker. Too often it feels like pandering to the fans who say they hate "CGI".

In this case though, in my opinion, the final result is more interesting to look at, more tactile, and the shots feel more old-school, than if we had not done it. So yes I think the process made the result "better".

There are two aspects to this. The first is building the model, the second is going the extra mile of shooting it Mo-Co. We could have stopped with just the model, and used it simply as lighting reference, but we didn't, so I'll talk about both.

First the model...

Before we decided to build the miniature, we already had a good looking CG Razorcrest, and had even finaled a shot or two with it. However, the Razorcrest has a paint finish that is nothing like any other Star Wars spaceships. It's not as matte as the Falcon, and nowhere near as mirror-like as Padme's ship in Ep1. It's somewhere in between. If we were just reproducing a known Star Wars ship, (or a new ship, but with a finish similar to known ships), there wouldn't be much benefit to building it practically. We know how to make a CG Falcon that's indistinguishable from the model(s), for instance. However because of the unknowns, if felt like there were things we could discover with further exploration, and we chose this path to explore.

As I mentioned, we had a darned good looking CG asset, that we had created through our normal CG look dev process. Even if we had pushed on with more experimentation of the look in CG, I doubt the ship would have ended up looking much different using that particular toolset. No one was saying "ugh, it just doesn't look good". As I said, we'd already finaled some shots, and they looked great. This was more about saying "what don't we know? What can we try to shake up this process, and discover new things?"

During the process of building the miniature, John Goodson discovered things through trial and error (and his vast experience building models), and arrived at a more scuffed, dirtier, but still "aircraft aluminum" finish on the Razorcrest.
The key to this is that at least part of that result was serendipitous, and came out of the process, and materials, rather than being a clear cut goal that John was simply executing on the model. If we hadn't built the model, we wouldn't have gotten that result.

Again, is that result "better" than the CG version? Again, subjective, but it's certainly more interesting in the way it takes the light, and the complexity it communicates, and whether it's "better" (which I think it is), we definitely wouldn't have gotten that specific result any other way.

Once we had the model, we duplicated that look on the CG version. Which of course demonstrates that there is no technical barrier to creating a ship that looks like that in CG, but again, it was the peculiarities of the model building process, the materials being used, and the mind of the model builder that arrived at that particular result. Duplicating that look in CG wasn't an issue, but arriving at that result, the path to getting there, was very specific to the route we chose.

Ok, that's just the decision to build a practical model, then there's also the decision to shoot it Mo-Co, rather than just using it as lighting/texture reference.

The decision to shoot it Mo-Co was Jon's, but came out of discussions we were having about what makes the original trilogy shots look and feel the way they do. Limitations of the technology of the time, shot design decisions having to do (in part) with George using actual aerial footage from films like Battle of Britain, and Dambusters in his rip-o-matic, shooting the models separately from the star fields, photo-chemical compositing, etc. all had an effect on the final result. In discussing all those things, we thought that putting ourselves through that process (or a trimmed down version of it) might render interesting results, with the old school vibe we were after.

We wanted to follow in those footsteps. Could we have done that in CG? Kind of? In fact, each of the Mo-Co shots began in Maya with me animating them using a CG version of the Mo-Co rig (like Previs folks do when Tech-Vising a shoot with specific equipment), in order to enforce the limitations of that particular rig, and the lenses we had, etc.

We could have simply rendered out those animations in our CG pipeline, and again would have gotten a perfectly acceptable result. However, the particular, peculiar, old-fashioned process of putting the model on the pylon, looking through the lens, discovering new things under the lights, making adjustments, dealing with unforeseen problems (and opportunities), yielded a specific result, that in my opinion was worth chasing.

Ok, so up top I said I disliked when a filmmaker opts for a practical approach simply out of nostalgia for the films they grew up on (it's almost never a filmmaker who actually had to make films that way back in the day). However in this case, I'll admit that there absolutely was a component of nostalgia here. For Jon certainly, but also for us doing the work. Is that a good reason to go to all this trouble? Not at all, not if that's the ONLY reason. On the other hand, if it's merely one ingredient, and there are other compelling reasons to go that route, I don't mind. Nostalgia makes it fun, and why shouldn't it be fun?

Hal Hickel, ILM animation director

Még egy Mandalorian S2 trailer
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Baszódjonak meg az ilyen foshomályos szat trailerrel. Ki is lőttem 5mp után. Egyátalán mi az anyjukért tesznek fel ilyen "minőségű" fost?

Köszi, ezt már megtaláltam én is. A trailer 2re lettem volna kíváncsi.
Nagyon fel tud baszni, hogy manapság amikor már a youtubeon is kb minden 4k feltesznek ilyen szarokat. A telefonom jobb videót készít.

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